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第二代改动的太差了，首先是一局的游戏时间过长了，导致我打完一把就再也不想玩故事模式了，相反一代的时间把控我觉得蛮好；其次就是这个派系，早在玩之前我就听说过这个设计很恶臭，但是百闻不如一见，玩起来确实够恶臭，零下120度你在这抗议，我测你是真不怕冷；最后就是剧本很敷衍，火山爆发那个剧情，总感觉殖民地就没做完，与殖民地互动极少。想买的慎重。

From nothing I am losing almost all my population. It would be a bug, but this happended several times. They did a very nice jon with Frostpunk 1, but this second game is awful.

比起第一代的剧情沉浸差了太多，感觉像个半成品，说好听是自由高，说难听就是打了个台子喊玩家自己唱戏。而且给的剧本很曹丹，无尽模式那5个剧情挑战很特么模糊，末日白幕第一次没过，没想到降温那么厉害，结果只有重开，重开前期发展一模一样很浪费时间也很枯燥。一个挑战就一个任务，你倒是做细致一点啊，主线、DLC剧情里面都知道把大任务拆成小目标，不然大都要二周目。对比第一代那几个剧情，你这第二代就是半成品。之前第一代最后来一句“值得吗”被喷麻了，第二部干脆就摆烂不做剧情了，真真是脸都不要了。

cơ chế game thì hay vcl mà dev ngu cũng vãi cà lìn toàn bug ngớ ngẩn vcc. chơi utopia tick vào cái hải đăng với bão tuyết gặp 3 cái bug dị vcc 1. AI request cái luật bị khóa 2. sau bão đưa dân tới thuộc địa thì auto vào bệnh viện hết, mà toàn là dân khỏe chứ 3. loop đéo gì 10…

broke the whole idea of frostpunk.

游戏BUG超多，游戏内容严重失衡，有以下几点问题1.无尽模式后期五谷死机2.超能鹿战队严重超模，极端社区技能点解锁BUG3.各类存储枢纽后期不够用，缺乏有效的存储建筑4.蒸汽核心剧本后期核心没有可用之处，大大冗余5.鹿战队的牧民前哨站后期不能更改为其它类型社区。而且可以通过派出牧民是社区消失。

Too far removed from the original - it has lost the personal touch the first one had, and lacks the big wow moment of the ending of the original. This one just sort of ends without a big climactic white out.

J'ai eu beau me forcer, lui donner 3 chances, j'avais un mauvais pressentiment. je n'ai pas eu la volonté de le finir. Comparé au 1, vous rajoutez juste plus de techno à chercher qui ne vous serviront à rien pour la plupart, ce jeu se perd dans une contrée tellement lointaine,…

Это абсолютно не тот опыт который вы ищите, если вы пришли за тем за что полюбили 1 ую часть игры, то знайте разраб плюнул вам в лицо и решил создать цивилизацию 6, добавив абсолютно тупейшую систему фракции. В 1 ой части вы капитан, вы принимаете решения. Во 2, из за увелечени…

Complexo, nada intuitivo, político demais, e cansativo.

派系的引入是本作的最大败笔，恶心，啊呸，恶心啊！

The game offers a different take on Frostpunk world and has decent gameplay. It is easier than FP1, or I guess more "accessible". You no longer have to contol single peasants (who manage to randomly die on a 10 meter stroll to infirmary, or get stuck on some task and refuse to ge…

Frostpunk 2 — «Ледяной симулятор бюрократии» Когда я включал Frostpunk 2, я ожидал, что это будет всё тот же холод, отчаяние и борьба за каждый градус тепла, как в первой части. Я ждал, что буду сжимать зубы, глядя на умирающих от голода людей и разрываться между выживанием и мо…

좀 실망이긴하다 1편이 막 가슴이 메어지는 느낌이고 절망과 절박함 안타까움이 느껴지고 한명도 안죽게 노력을 해보려고 할수있었다면 2편은 안끊어지게 이어붙인답시고 좀 조잡함 뭔가 뭔가임

垃圾游戏，末日题材完全没有自由度，搞什么鬼的派系，死都要死了，还搞尼玛民主，建设类游戏完全没有建设乐趣，真的是一坨大便

Did not liked this faction system.. (first one did not had it) just sopped playing.. disappointing..

Sadly less good that the first. Some may like it, it's not my case.

二代真的是无语了，背离了本心真不如一代，容错率超低，围绕派系，采集就跟玩一样，初始啥也不建造煤炭都跟不上，还玩个粑粑，玩个游戏比考大学还难，差评！真后悔入这代

Game crashes if you try to load a save

Играли за город, теперь играем за империю. Зачем? В первую часть наиграно 114ч, и иногда нет нет да потягивает. Тут 37. И то один раз оставил на ночь, игра сама в себя играла. Безликая и бездушная, сделали что бы сделать. Сейчас делают ремастер первой части после того как пустили…

《冰汽时代2》的乌托邦建造者无尽模式本应提供长期经营和城市发展的乐趣，但目前的核心资源机制让后期发展充满了不可控的挫败感。游戏将能源转型的关键资源——“核心”绑定在霜地探索的随机奖励中，而不是提供稳定、可规划的获取路径。玩家需要依靠核心完成能量塔升级、石油时代过渡以及深熔钻等后期科技，但连续多次探索没有获得核心时，城市就会被迫停留在低效率能源阶段。 更严重的问题在于，探索本身也存在规模门槛。前期探索几次后，新区域往往需要大量霜地团队才能进入，而霜地团队又需要城市具备足够人口和资源支持。当核心迟迟无法获得时，玩家会陷入一个无法破解的循环：无法升级能源…

傻逼游戏！！！难得臭要死！！！教程没有的！！各种必要机制都不给你显示出来！！！这么不友善那么我也不给好评！！！

Horrible. Plan on watching videos just to get started. If you're a serious gamer then you might feel different. If you're just an occasional player then this isn't for you. There's virtually no tutorial. The limited tutorial is complete crap. Frostpunk 1 is difficult but at…

如果你最近生活很爽，想来点不一样的感觉，一定要买一个来气死自己。 碰到冰汽时代1打折买来玩爽了，然后就想玩2看看，刚开局就绷不住了，剧情序章塑造了一个末日挣扎的场景，要想尽量收集更多的食物，然后安排一个npc来提示我，这边有一群海豹，海豹杀了肉更多，提示我的时候还得嘟囔两句是神让海豹们活下来的，我们猎杀他们不太仁义，后面还蹦个剧情，说是一群老人觉得食物难凑，决定自己独自走进风雪中牺牲自己，可以通过屠杀海豹来更快凑齐食物，从而说服他们不去牺牲，我救了他们，还得蹦两个npc来阴阳我一下，说什么世界让海豹活了下来，我们却屠杀了他们巴拉巴拉，还说…

Ужасно

Tried to min max to my abolute limit still got screwed sideways in officer difficulty by things i could have known were basically mandatory if you wanted to survive Played the whole first game on one save rolling back only couple times Way to unintuitive so not as pleasurable of…

Абсолютно идиотская система фракций, которые появляются по скрипту и устраивают истерику на ровном месте. Договориться сложно, прожать еще сложнее, эти гениальные люди бунтуют и захватывают критически важные места вроде угольной шахты. Генератор вырубается, "Город пал". А еще пр…

Loved the original. Disappointed by the sequel. I was warned by several people that the sequel was .. different, but I wanted to give it a shot as different doesnt = worse. Well, this sequel is in my opinion worse than the original in almost every way.

我受不了了，褒贬不一是有原因的。 卡劳动力，ui乱，引导差。 研究科技，建造建筑，都会导致某一派降好感，你就要去来回端水 剧情上秘密警察搞十一抽杀，我以为弄几个激进分子差不多了，结果是抽1000杀100，杀到后面都没人了，想降人口把人拉到秩序卫士就行了 新伦敦好日子不过，非要去冬日之家吸毒气，人是一批一批得死，何意味

boring af

太愚蠢了！這遊戲製作組簡直就是精神錯亂。 前面過主線劇情我還想著強行用現實社會中的政治和權力的關係為其解釋開脫。雖然確實玩到後面覺得解救這個城市毫無意義，給恐怖分子講溫情也算嚴肅敘事嗎？ 然後後面開烏托邦模式結果徹底把我搞無語了： 我選了進步、平等、理性的三個社區和科技府開局，結果突然出現一個第五派系：冰血族。 這下倒好，上來就是滿格狂熱，與所有民眾為敵，看畫像就知道是一幫廢土黑幫，結果11bit還在介紹中用一堆文青詞彙，諸如回歸自然、感受風暴、磨煉適應這些鬼詞，將其包裝成一種極具廢土浪漫主義的哲學流派。結果實際上卻仗著自己冰血的特性根本就就不怕冷，掀起…

I liked the first version of Frostpunk so much that I immediately bought the second one. Unfortunately, I find this game unplayable, cumbersome, and with decidedly high technical requirements. The audio streaming on my Bluetooth headphones works terribly, everything is slow, and …

有很多偏門的方法可以輕鬆打過高難度，走公式也行 但就這個國民大會模擬器讓我玩起來很不自在，一點自由度都沒有，基本就只能走公式通關 作為經營模擬遊戲毫無發展空間，只能被派系牽著鼻子走 作為政治模擬遊戲也很小兒科，兩大派系只有對立沒有妥協，而且流派平衡性極差 看起來需要在端水跟發展間找到平衡點選擇法案和事件抉擇 實際上因為差勁的平衡，大多選項間僅有最優解可以選擇，做為端水跟政治模擬也沒有自由度可言 DLC看似給了折衷方案，但折衷方案效益差到玩家根本不會選，而且兩邊的極端派系也都是持反對態度 一點意義都沒有，要打最終烏托邦結局一定要跟其中一邊撕破臉，妥協設計…

Nothing like the first game. Not much excitement in this story, imo.

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This should've been a completely new game or at least a spin-off. Not the sequel. In the first game you could screw up but you would learn from your mistakes. Not in this game.

I really like FP2 a lot but any game without a "Start Paused" option in the menu is an auto-fail. Sorry, I don't make the rules (I do, in fact, make the rules). [strike]EDIT: Also we should be able to name our cities like in FP1.[/strike] UPDATE-TO-THE-EDIT: Hurr im dum af, lo…

это не frostpunk

I don't like FP2, prefer the first Frostpunk. Pre-ordered because I really liked the first one thinking it would be great while being slightly different but actually is kinda mid imo. Played it on a old PC, later built a new PC but still runs like a$$ on 4k. Personally, would not…

能不能修修你这逼BUG啊，之前理想国里突然虚空增加十万人口，现在极光镇进第二章又九千人口全生病

游戏荒了过来玩玩，教程真的一坨狗屎玩了几百款游戏，殖民模拟4X类型的至少几十款，玩你这个B教程也猜了半天才猜出来要怎么操作。还有那狗操的引导，开荒玩的第三个难度，按照他那挤牙膏引导根本不可能完成，先看完引导在重开才行。以及资源类型特性都不介绍一下，依旧什么都不说让玩家猜。 还有白皮最爱的民主制，真是民民又主主啊，通过什么议案都要做政治交易吗？我说索贿制有没有懂得？ 依旧依旧到的拷问，要么灭绝海报要么放逐老人自生自灭吗？等到设计组老了那我可要狠狠的爱海豹了。 本来想打好评的，可以制作组没有给我政治交易只好打差…

I loved the first frontpunk, and I thought i could get into the whole district system rather then making a cool circular city, but no, the game doent explain vital systems needed to survive the elements. they have over comlicated and obscured most of systems that the first ga…

not worth the hype, the original frostpunk is undoubtedly better than this. I wish this game had kept the core mechanic from the previous game too.. The previous game had a structure that created amazing addiction.

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프로스트 1 해보고 너무 재미있어서 샀는데, 사기 전 부터 평가가 안 좋길래 에이 설마 그 정도라고? 1편에 비해 상대적으로 별로라 역체감이 느껴져서 그런거겠지~ 하면서 눈 딱 감고 구매. 근데 플레이 감각이 그냥 아예 1이랑 다른 게임임 1에서 이어지는 후속작이 아니라 그냥 아예 다른 게임임. 왜 호불호가 갈리는지 대강 알 거 같음, 1은 추위라는 자연재해에서 살아남기 위해 작은 것 부터 하나 하나 쌓아가며 버티고 위기를 극복 해 나가는 집중도가 굉장히 높게 짜여져 있는데 2는 사실 추위는…

I was actually enjoying this one much more than frostpunk 1. But then I got hit with a bug once I colonised Winterhome. Everyone there got sick because of the gasses. Okay, I sent more people from New London to cover the geysers, succeeded that, but now those extra people are sic…

真是闹麻游戏，过个新手教程啥也没看懂资源就这缺那缺，上手难度比一代高了不知道多少的同时教程更是啥也没讲明白，摸索了半天玩的半懂不懂的，还要同时看一万个殖民地缺啥补啥，规划每个地方区域和枢纽，在已经足够劳累的时候傻逼派系还要出来恶心你一手，我是八爪鱼吗隔这里来上班来了。

The EULA states that they collect you personal information and IP address in order to profile you, and they can share that profile data with whoever they want. I recommend you avoid this title and everything else by 11bit going forward, I know I will.

Really sick of this studio's extremely poor difficulty balancing, both in FP1 and 2. You acknowledge the issue by putting out a 'tips & tricks' article yet a month later nothing has actually been done to fix it in-game. What is the point of creating content that isn't fun to play…

I liked the game and think its a good step forward. I really respect, that they are not doing the same thing over again and develop the gameplay with the story. But with the new update i can't play it any more. A bug in the main menu makes it unable for me to do anything there…